you. >> michael: engaging in the game of chicken. i'm michael shure. this is the war room. >> michael: and grand 'ol party is becoming increasingly frayed as the parties seem intent on sabotaging the party for the sake of ideological purity. and george w. bush has decided to break his silence and weigh

back in the political fray. he put himself squarely in the middle of an issue that is causing division within his party and that is immigration. >> we can up hold traditions of assimilating immigrants and honoring our heritage of rule of law. but we have a problem. the laws governing the immigration system aren't working. the system is broken. we're now in an important debate reforming those laws. >> michael: still hard not to smile. that position puts him at odds with the republican leadership. house speaker john boehner said he will not even look at the immigration ball. paul ryan and eric cantor are right there with him. both said they have not read the bill. and tim huelskamp said, i haven't read it yet.

they decided to table the issue until next session when they think they'll have a bigger majority. so much for reaching out to latinos. they are motto is clinging to their demographic majority, which is white men and keep the demographics as small as humanly possible. stove king of iowa said this, it would hurt republicans. and two of the three new citizen was be democrats. as boehner sweeps the issue of immigration under the rug he returns to the republicans' over favorite issue of lost cause the obamacare. boehner and house republicans seize the opportunity to attack the president after his administration announced the delay of a piece of it, that is

the employer mandate. >> this is the train wreck. >> michael: the g.o.p. don't seem to do a whole lot of reading. but even as republicans try to distract with stumps like this one, there are real issues not being addressed. that is gun violence. over the fourth of july weekend 70 people were shot and 12 people died in chicago alone. governor pat quinn tried to veto a bill, but legislature tried to overrode that. they now expect 300,000 concealed permit applications within the year. joining us now with the analysis of all that is jim warren, the washington bureau chief to "the new york daily news." from chicago he comes to us from d.c. tonight. thanks as always for being in the war room, jim. >> thanks, i come to you from

the white house, i was at the ceremony where president obama gave out 24 medals in the humanities and the arts. there was curiosity with the likes of joan didian, george lucas, and sportswriters and dancers and singers there. and juxtaposes with this world just a mile or so away where they don't even want to read the legislation that they're pass passing. this is a wonderful inspiration to our kids. >> michael: and jim, they're so proud of it. we didn't read it. they're so happy about not having read it. i love that. he's giving out awards on the arts and letters across the way. it just speaks to much. it's so symbolic. listen over the past couple of years i want to turn your back to chicago for a second to something that is a little more sobering. chicago your city has seen a

spike in homicides. what needs to happen in d.c. for chicago to have less gun violence. >> i don't think a whole lot needs to happen in d.c. i think the problem there is really less law abiding folks will be carrying guns. what we do in chicago with the folks who are not so law abiding who are carrying guns. i think if you look closely at the situation in chicago you see in part, i mean a whole bunch of elements. it is complex, and it has to do with the high drop-out rates and huge concentration of poverty that you can't kind in los angeles, new york, but the culture there that just treats guns differently. i would argue far more passively than they do in in a place like new york. we knew a couple of years ago a

new york giants football player got caught with a gun in a nightclub, and he did time. you can no more imagine that happening to a chicago bear in chicago than my doing a triathlon as soon as i leave the studio tonight. >> michael: the two of us. >> part of it has to do with incredible concentrations of poverty and hopelessness. and it's not a matter of the folks in the police department not being diligent enough. the number of guns confiscated every year. last year it was 7,000 guns confiscated. and by any ratio apples to apples comparison, let's say with new york, that is a far far greater per capita. five times per capita of guns being taken off the street, and still you have more people being killed. >> michael: what do you make of the conceal carry. will that make it more prevalent, and now what does pat

quinn, the governor of illinois do. he has fought it. >> illinois, the 50th state. they're under a mandate of a federal appeals court in chicago to get this done by this week. they really had no choice. quinn, i think partly out of sort of idealism, part out of pre-campaign election year, politics decided to do with they call a mandatory detail which means he can start rewriting passages of the bill. that was a loser. this was a fight he was not going to win and it's pretty remarkable. for those who think that there is this wave out there of gun control mania just be reminded that illinois is distinctly democratic state democratic governor democratic legislature, and by overwhelming margin they went with this conceal-carry law on monday. >> michael: that's what is shocking about it, even more so.

standing where i'm standing, it is, in fact, when you think of illinois this is the type of place where you think there is no place they're going to go ahead with this. there is no way they can override a democratic governor. it's something to keep our eyes on. it goes right up against what we think, i thought there was a mania similar to what you just spoke of. jim, i have to steer you back to the capitol, sorry to do that. i would love to ignore the immigration, the republicans like they're ignoring the immigration. do you think that's smart to do that until after the election, or could their strategy backfire. >> i wouldn't so much call it a strategy. it's a basic primal, self preservation given the realities of redistricts across the country. many republicans don't have to worry about this. the more they can sound anti-immigration the better it

tends to play better in their districts. there are so few contesteds races that we're going to see around the country next week. that is the real tragedy of the system whereby it's not necessarily that we pick our elected representatives. it's the other way around. they pick who is going to vote for them. that's let us into this situation. so i any it's going to be probably for the republican i would guess an i am peeric impiric victory. then come 2016 whoever their presidential candidate is, that man or that woman is going to have to face the collateral damage of this, and probably get absolutely crunched on this issue. >> michael: i would imagine in the house of representatives you know, it's so different than running nationally, and it will really hamper what any national

candidate is going to do. being so addicted to this fence. are they trying to keep out latinos or democrats. >> if you were a pool player it's a bank shot. you knock both into two different pockets. in their minds i think there is a small group that verges on the zenophobic, i think there is a group of 50, 60 republicans. after that it becomes a bit more complicated, and i suspect the guy like boehner would like--if it was left to him alone he could cut a deal tomorrow. but he's got this fractious caucus, and they've backed him into a corner or he's backed himself in a corner by invoking a rule from the state of the

illinois dennis hastarb. and it's not going to lab is it possible that the republicans come up with something mediocre where they can say o we toughen border security even more, and we're not going to really have, any quote amnesty, and then let this thing go to the so-called conference where the two bills and the two sides all meet in one room? it's possible that they pass a few things. but right now it's--it verges sort of on the on on the annilistic.

>> michael: yes, george w. bush has been quite past couple of years. why is he coming out now? is he trying to get in the mist of this infighting? >> no, i don't think there is that much guile, premeditation. there is an issue which he has always felt very very strongly about. it's crystal clear. if he was in charge these days you can imagine him bringing a lot more republicans certainly into the oval office than barack obama has and try to twist their arms. but i mean, it is unusual in that he's made a personal pact not to get involved with this personal stuff. he has been flying below the radar screen. this is not bill clinton mouthing off on anything and everything under the sun. this is a rarity appearance in tanzania. in dallas they're doing sufficient that is pretty good,

this women's conference. this is interesting. clearly he is frustrated about something that is a primal importance to him. >> michael: of course, before i let go, and very quickly i want to bring up virginia governor bob transvaginal probe mcdonnell. it's a tough nickname but he's got it. an fbi investigation shows that he failed to disclose gifts from wealthy donors, is he oh done? >> as far as being a big national candidate yeah, i would think that he would be toast in the short run. can he come back from this a few years down the road? well, after what we've seen about the the aforementioned mr. mr. spitzer and mr. weiner, and you didn't even mention the gentleman from south carolina, sanford. we clearly as a culture are increasingly given to pass out second chances for the sinners among us. >> michael: yes, exactly.

go run a triathlon. jim warren from "the new york daily news." thank you for being on the show. after the break being bad legislaturelegislators is one part of the plan. we'll see what life is like after the tip of the sphere. the author of "damn few" will be here. and it's common knowledge that fdr used a wheelchair. but while in office few secrets from heavily guarded.

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voting rights intact but without the law there is no place to decide where that law applies. now they're turning to a new tactic, the secret weapon of the voting rights act. this is section 3. it allows the justice department to add new districts to the law if the federal government can prove recent intensional discrimination. back in 2011 the republican-controlled district redrew district 10, district center wendy davis the same wendy davis who became a national hero with her 11-hour filibuster against abortion restrictions. davis challenged the map and the federal court struck it down. she won re-election under the old map allowing her historic stand. but after the supreme court

ruling that map is now back in contention. last week davis' lawyers and the texas naacp asked the federal court to put the entire state of texas back under the purview of the voting rights act this time under secret weapon, section 3. are you following me? with me now michelle bernard of the bernard center. welcome back inside "the war room." michelle will the justice department now start using section three to start to fill the gap left by the supreme court ruling? >> absolutely. i have no doubt about it. quite frankly the justice department doesn't have any other options but to use section three. what you see under section three where a state has intentionally engaged in acts of voter suppression, voter discrimination the justice department can then go and move

to have the entire state covered covered. which is what we have seen under section four. it's the only way we get any enforcement. as we know when the supreme court knocked down section four of the voting rights act calling it unconstitutional, what they did was took away the normal mechanisms that we would see a court use, for example, to say you are not going to engage intact ticks that will have a discriminatory affect on minorities. >> michael: does the law still have the teeth without the part that the supreme court threw out? >> well, here's the problem. i mean, in a sense it has the teeth, but the real problem is how do you prove intent? it is very difficult to say, for example, that when the texas legislationlegislature, i'll use them as an example, jerrymanders, that they had the intent of suppressing

the vote of minorities and other incillary minorities. they go out and say i'm going to draw this district in this way because i don't want hispanic voting, and i know they're going to vote democratic, and i want this district republican. no one is foolish enough this day and age other than joseph arapaio in arizona to make that statement so overtly. >> michael: building a fence is an overt way of saying that. >> absolutely. >> michael: it doesn't get more overt than that. but i understand what you're saying. there is a little bit of a problem there when you see how these districts are drawn because they're doing it on the sly as they're want to do. i want to ask you about president obama. he met for the first time in

almost two years with the congressional black caucus yesterday, discussed replacing the section that the supreme court threw out and patrick leahy had a hearing on this, is there any chance that this congress will get something done at all on this? >> this congress could not pass a farm bill. it will go down in history as one of the most ineffective congress sessions that we've ever seen in u.s. history. i don't think that this congress particularly in the republican house of representatives has any interest in doing anything about fixing section 3 of the voting right act. if i had my truthers, all 50 states of the nation would be coveredded since bush versus gore whether it is lines that take seven or eight hours that you have to wait to vote, if you're poor, and if you have a 9:00 to 5:00 job, you can't take the whole day off. those are all things that are having a negative impact

particularly on low-income people and communities of color and something that this particular house of congress have no interest whatsoever to making sure that those people have an ability to vote. >> michael: when you talk about since bush versus gore and the 50-state solution, that to me makes the most sense as well. you don't have to get mired down in the sections of the voting rights act. this is the law. and it applies to everybody. >> absolutely. >> michael: you just wrote a book" marking the 50th anniversary of the civil rights law." many people have not heard of this organization. tell us what it is. >> it is still around based here in washington, d.c. with and all over the country. 50 years in june, june 21 1963, shortly after medicine medgerevers

was assassinated. they called lawyers to the white house and said will you please help me take the battle of silver rights from the streets to the courts. in 1963 this was absolutely a revolutionary radical act. there were lawyers all over the south who refused to represent civil rights workers because they were scared of repercussions or they were segregationists. governor george wallace who declared segregation now segregation forever. we saw lawyers from all over the country come together, leave private practice. we saw huge law firms donating lawyers who would move to the south and live there for years to fight the most silver rights

battle of our time, and they've been doing this for the last 50 years. they are involved in every possible issue you can imagine whether it is voting rights and how we deal with voter suppression with how we deal with immigrant rights, rights for gay and lesbians, they're all over the map. they're in post hurricane katrina in the gulf coast they have been critical. it is my belief that the lawyers committee is going to be at the forefront of dealing with these voter suppression issues we've seen all over the country particularly in light of the supreme court's recent action. >> michael: it's a fantastic history, and i think everybody should take a look at it. the importance that lawyers play in convincing judges like frank johnson and others in the south on silver rights couldn't be more important to read that. i'm glad you wrote the book. >> absolutely, thank you. >> michael: i want to switch gears while we have you here.

>> joy: michelle. and talk about something in the news. the defense has rested on the george zimmerman trial in florida. you argued that the public reaction to the trial has exposed racial prejudice. what has stuck out to you? >> absolutely. it's amazing how contentious it has been. if you get away whether george zimmerman is guilty of second-degree murder or not, you go on social media and you look at things that people have been saying particularly about african-americans, you can't help but say to yourself we have a very serious race problem in the united states still. when you look at the cross-examination of racial setell but don west, social media was abuzz. people were making comments about the color of her skin, weight false nails the fact that rachel was not articulate, not well spoken, was not able to get an opportunities to

education that other people have had. her use of language. people made comments about her going out and getting fried chicken, which as you know quite often people use as a disparaging comment that african-americans only eat fried chicken. people made comments about her why didn't she get a library card. quite frankly because of her appearance and inart inarticulateness, and they felt she was incredible. we've got a huge problem particularly coming on the heels of the supreme court's decision on the voter rights act. when i call him the esteemed justice scalia, i say that with a bit of sarcasm talking about the need for the voting rights act and calling voting rights a racial entitlement and comparing the needs of minority to vote to the needs of child molesters

there is something very seriously wrong. >> michael: something is broken, and it needs to come to light. maybe this trial will serve a purpose. thank you for come together "the war room." pick up michelle's book. coming up next. oregon my oregon. finally a group of applications making some sense in the sea of incompetence and apathy that is the student loan crisis. we have more coming up after the break.

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[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: michael shure here again in "the war room." we have good news and some bad news. the bad news first. today the u.s. senate failed to prove that they care about students. senators had one last chance to cancel the student loan increase that went into effect on july 1st. they had a chance to buy themselves one more year to craft a permanent solution and keep interest rates down. democrats needed 60 votes for that to happen. they didn't get it, and hello higher rates. the student loan debt soars. it's quadrupleed since 2003, but now the good news. law make necessary oregon have proven that they do care. they approved a tuition reform bill and it may be a game changing. the plan is called "pay it

forward pay it back." public university tuition will be free. in return the state will take a 3% cut of students future income for 24 years. that means if you're paid $50,000 annually you would owe oregon $1,500 a year. that won't pad the pockets of private lenders but would go back to the state pot to keep the future education free for future years. we have chairman of higher education and workforce committee. thank you for joining me in the war room, senator. this policy is the definition of thinking outside the box. tell us why this pay it forward pay it back plan is a good one. >> well, it got its legs in a classroom here at portland state university, and college students have become experts on student

debt as you know. they walk out of college in four years with a diploma in one hand and a loan in the other and the average debt is $26,000. they came up with what if we did this, this and this, and it has a very appealing notion pay it forward, which came from the movie, and occasionally pops up in starbucks, and the reason that the legislature took it seriously is because we know legislatures know about these tuition increases which may be a subject under the radar for many americans who don't have kids in school but it's a very serious issue. that's why we're looking at this pilot project. i don't mean it's a serious issue for our young people but it's a serious national security issue. if we don't remain a strong economic superpower we're going to continue losing ground to these other nations that are

passing us up in these categories like education. >> michael: it's a separate issue. >> it is. >> michael: it is such a big-picture issue. as you alluded, the plan was developed by an oregon college student in an ec con class. i want to listen as he encouraged those to adopt his plan. >> i'm a history major and i have $10,000 in cost. this plan would lower that cost, make it more affordable for young people who are graduating from college to start their business buy a house and get the economy going. >> michael: he couldn't be more right. what effect bus this student input have on the bill. it went through the oregon legislature and then it will likely be signed this month by the governor. why did it move so fast? >> what effect did it have? there was no no-votes in oregon. that is rare, passing

unanimously in both claimers. it got our attention. for people who will be skeptical whether this will work or not, i have to say this is an idea. it is one idea, and it may not even be the best idea, but these are the kinds of ideas we've got to start throwing on the table as opposed to the u.s. senate which unconsciencebly they didn't even resurrect the status quo. this is how we want to be thinking if we're going to get all of our young people into college, into technical training and out of college. we're talking about the student debt, the other side of this equation are the kids who can't even get into college in the first place they can't barrow anything. there is no viable future for those kids. >> michael: it's really a serious problem. listen, we don't know if this is going to work. it's an experiment. but what is happening now isn't working. so it's good to try something new. the new plan will eventually be self sustaining. getting it off the ground,

senator, will cost the state an estimated $9 billion. where is that money going to come from? >> well, i don't think those costs are in yet. we're looking at a study to do a pilot project at one of our universities, and i don't know about that figure that you just mentioned, but there is bonding philanthropy, general taxes and we've created revolving funds. it's a fairly common instrument in public financing, and so we will figure those things out. or, you know, we thought this was a good idea and it didn't work. we might try this, and we say you know i wonder why we didn't start this 30 years ago. that's why we're looking at this. >> michael: which is great. you get applause for trying it and it does work. is there a plan on putting a cap on how much students pay back. i could see contingents fuming

because of having to pay it forward. even if they pay nothing and then come out making millions and millions. >> those kinds of details are part of the study we'll do in the next two years before we launch this pilot. >> michael: what are you going to be watching for in those years during the pilot. what specifically are you looking at to gauge its success. you're not going to wait 24 years to see if it worked. >> no, what if someone leaves the country? what if somebody don't sign up and do this? there are going to be other costs besides tuition. there is housing, and so we're trying to put all of those things in the study and answer those very legitimate questions. it's not the only thing we're doing. we're looking at how to make more opportunities for high school students earn college credits and there are a thousand different things we should be throwing at this problem.

>> michael: it's not just about student loans but it's a great place to start. senator, thank you for joining us and coming from portland tonight. this coming up, ladies and gentlemen, what the best of the best looked like. author of "damn few," he's next and hopefully they'll point the camera to me. question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us.

>> if you believe in state's rights but still support the drug war you must be high. >> "viewpoint" digs deep into the issues of the day. >> do you think that there is

any chance we'll see this president even say the words "carbon tax"? >> with an open mind... >> has the time finally come for real immigration reform? >> ...and a distinctly satirical point of view. >> but you mentioned "great leadership" so i want to talk about donald rumsfeld. >> (laughter). >> watch the show. >> only on current tv. >> michael: as "the new york times" reported yesterday, the obama administration is considering speeding up troop withdraw from afghanistan and is also entertaining a zero option. that would remove all troops by by 2014. complete with spacious offices fancy chairs, powerful air conditioning and a price tag of $34 million, the fifth the facility

that was finished this year is essentially empty. our next guest is a soldier and wrote a book of how the elite teams of highly trained troops ofwrote a book of elite military is a thing of past. the former navy seal author of "damn view"." this is rourke denver. this is what we come up for a war room. the navy seals have been in the news an awful lot lately. what propelled you to write the book. >> the booken entired my service. i was in my senior year in college not knowing what i wanted to do next. my dad sent me a churchill book

"early life." iti wanted to spend my life in public service and the navy seals fit that service. >> michael: i read churchill when i was younger totally different reaction. loved the guy but i didn't go into the navy seals. you went into training, advance and basic seals training in san diego, what does it take to be a navy seal. >> if i could bottle it and figure out a way we could package it and you and i would be on an island tomorrow. it's annal can me that comes together. refusal of quitting is something you have to bring and the desire to be on that team, to do that job. i think it's beyond testing yourself. you want to be part of that elite brotherhood and that will help you see the finish line.

>> michael: first of all, i always wonder this. i could step in the ring with mike tyson i could do it for $1 million, what would happen if i walked in. if i walked into day one of seal training. today i had chex mix bagel and coffee. what would happen to me on day one. >> it would an tough day. >> michael: would i live? >> you would survive it. when a young lion tells me can i get my seal training? no. it comes down to you. do you believe you can be a seal. do you believe you can get through the training. we'll put the barriers in place and give you the curriculum. it's on you to see the finish line. >> michael: that makes sense. your book describes these' least soldiers. is it better to send in a few dozen seals than this major artillery and troops and

deployment that we have. >> yes i talk about that at the end of "dam few: making the mod den seal warrior." i talk about the future of warfare. we can't get there alone. we can't sustain ourselves alone for a long period of time, so it takes more than just us, but we're uniquely qualified for hot flareups in the world. >> michael: you've seen the world. what is the craziest mission that we could read about in your book. >> in the book one of the things we found out when we first started our odyssey in iraq in 2006, the special options command sent us out west. that's the lawlessness of a spot that we have, you need to go to work there. one of the things that the seals had done classically was operate at night. and the fact of the matter that everybody was asleep at night. so most of the bad guys were doing bad things in the daytime.

we have pointed conversations should we start going out on more classic conventional patrols and finding these guys. we would show ourselves, let's get in a fist fight and find the enemy on their terrain. we did that, but it came at a high cost. some didn't come home. >> michael: that's something that some people don't know how to deal with. you go on these missions with a kill or be killed attitude, and that's something so few people can relate to, and so many people are in awe of. did you know you had that when you got to your first day of seal training? >> i thought i did. that's one of the things that the program and the brotherhood offer. there are people who just feel they were born a warrior have that gene within them, and then gravitate towards a profession like this. the seal team gives you the best of course to test that theory. >> michael: when your name is rourke denver. there are only a couple of

options. you could have been a quarterback. >> no, not enough. >> michael: tell me this you mentioned the brotherhood a lot. the pentagon announced it will integrate women in front line combat positions. tell me how you feel about the seals being enter grated. >> i outan article about this when it was discussed months ago. my--let's just say for the purpose to answer the question. field training is the toughest. let's say it is. do i think women can get through our training program? 100%. when i talk to somebody about our training program it depends on what is in your heart and your head. it's a mental game to get there it. the physical game is there. >> michael: let me remind you that i couldn't get through day one. >> we can talk about that off line. i honestly think the brotherhood, that thing that you just mentioned is the only hesitation reservation that i have. it's not an on just. let's just take it slow. the gentlemen that i am around,

my bride i'm around, the regular world is not the person i am in the seal team. it is an spartan aggressive, hard place. we bathe jours ourselves in of a advantagery to--ourselves in savagery to get the job done. i have no doubt that women can do it, i fundmently believe that. it is the culture. if it changes our capacity to work, i would worry about that. >> michael: it's an interesting thing that you say. everybody has their game face, and you speak of that. but you know, in your case it's more of a clark kent into superman, i'm not saying that--i'm saying that in real terms. what you all do. who are you when you're a seal? what is different from the person i'm sitting across right now. >> the job that we're asked to do is ugly.

our engagement our participation in war you call the seal team or s.w.a.t. to do the job. they go into the battlefield in the far extreme of this persons so i think the training brings you to the place you need to be at when that happens. they don't say that you perform to your potential. you become your training. that's very much true. we train as intensely and as well as anyone on the battlefield. the first time i leveled my sights on a bad guy it didn't feel like a first time. we had done that so many times. the afterwards is the difficult and the metabolizeation is what it difficult. >> michael: tell us about that. >> i wrote a chapter on that. i feel blessed that every bad guy and target we went after i

felt were truly a bad guy. but that is someone's son someone's brother someone's father. they're not going to be around again. our guys have the capacity for intense violence and the operation that is required, but i don't know many who are blood-thirsty guys. >> michael: did you ever make a mistake? >> i'm sure i made a bunch of mistakes. there is zero room for errors and the errors can be catastrophic. i feel lucky in my platoon everyone came home. we lost three in our last deployment, but our families are the ones who pay the tax of war. >> michael: i can only imagine what that's like. do you pay attention to

politics? >> oh, yeah, when i was running training, when i was one of the officers running training i would do a current events class for the entire class. officers and enlisted alike. i give them a quiz. do you know what country is east of afghanistan. do you know what language is spoken in the philippines and talk about these things. if you find yourself in an indication where you're uninformed you're gas to be a lesser operator. i like politics in the seals team. it's nice that we're a bit removed from it and we're detached in that part of the game. >> michael: i'm excited to read your book. the book is called "damn few: the making of the modern seal warrior." the only thing he had to fear was public finding out. we'll tell you who and what we are talking about in tonight's political trivia.

[ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> michael: time now for

tonight's epic political trivia. on december 19 1941, a mere 12 days after the attack on pearl harbor president franklin d. roosevelt established the office of censorship. the director was invested with the power of his absolute discretion. to show how cooperative thes were was the officers was byron price of the associated press. they monitored 50,000 overseas cables and 25,000 phone calls per week which is an interesting reminder of how history repeats itself. more than that it was an era of unprecedented cooperation by the press. nowhere is that more evident than with today's release of the national archives of the video of fdr unearthed by a professor of franklin college. it shows roosevelt, rare in that it shows him moving in a wheelchair.

fdr requested news photographers to shoot him from the waist up. it was an unofficial white house office of censorship. can you imagine if our media would be so cooperative. you wouldn't have videos of gerald ford deplaning. or even george w. bush opening doors with new relations with china--or not. but considering what today's process has become, fdr would have had a hard time hiding his polio from the public. but then again it would have been today and he likely wouldn't have had pole yes. we've run out of ways to cleverly introduce brett erlich, so let's go down to los angeles and get it over with. >> i'm just like to have clever and brett erlich in the same sentence that doesn't happen a lot. >> michael: it was an accident. >> i have a few stories. you know when the super bowl

happens, they want to sell t-shirts they make championship t-shirts for both teams and whoever loses they send all those t-shirts, for example the 49er super bowl t-shirts-- >> michael: oh, you had to go there. i know you're a season ticketholder. that >> that is expanding in the campaign. there is send waters in kenya she has a nephew who is a county officer for the romney campaign, and so he sent some of his romney t-shirts, we have photos of them, to children in africa. and so now it proves that no matter where you are from the east village to east africa, no matter who you are, you can still wear t-shirts ironically. there's that. and there are means that have sprung up. we have a photo of one mean that is my favorite photo i've seen

in a while. a small child that says, rome, shirts arrive monday. it is fantastic. it's a great thing that is happening. >> michael: yes, it is. mitt romney spreading joy all over the world as he did in our country. >> indeed. we have another story that is not--i'm doing it in this segment because it is too disturbing if you don't have a sense of humor about it, it's so weird and you hope that it's funny. trayvon martin. somebody made a trayvon martin app that you can fight as trayvon martin, and they tried to pull it off. this is an traditional game play. they issued an an apology for it. >> michael: i can't bear it. take it down off the internet. brett erlich this is "the war room," "the young turks" are next. and very proud of that. >>beltway politics from inside the loop. >>we tackle the big issues here

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>> cenk: welcome to "the young turks," we're going to have an awesome show for you tonight. on the pirate current ghost ship. it will be great. so i will unravel my great unraveling theory. what is it? well, you got to wait. that's later in the program. i'm going to tell you all about it. it's disastrous and it involved disastrous.